I like the idea, but male bodies and female bodies are shaped very differently. I like having the same style, but in terms of actual fit, this may not be feasible . Thoughts?
Exactly – I mean, skirts vs trousers is to do with gender, but male t-shirts vs female t-shirts is to do with body shape, and trying to find a compromise will just ensure they don't fit anyone properly.
Yes and no. Both men and women's bodies fall on a spectrum. Some girls are curvy, some aren't. Some guys are curvy too. Women don't need to be in a curve fitting top to look nice. The top I am in right now is "peasant style" and not fitted. I see "boyfriend style" tops in clothes stores all the time, they're often literally men's stuff that have had minor cosmetic alterations (like the rolled up arms stitched in place). One of the current fashions these days is to get an oversized top and wear it with leggings. And not to forget, I've helped organize events where tshirts were a thing. Many many women attendees opt for the non-babydoll styles, and smaller built guys even opt for babydoll instead of unisex. Pants are a slightly different thing. Holy fuck is it hard to find a pair of jeans that fits right. Because all women are shaped differently and aren't a perfect ratio of butt to height, but a lot of styles don't accommodate anything other than a strict narrow formula. You know what, one of my most comfortable pairs of jeans as a teenager was a pair of boy's jeans. It's now actually a thing these days for guys to get girls jeans. They often have a better range of colors and styles, and some cis guys find they fit better than the dude cuts too. They don't like the lack of decent pockets either. Tl;dr: gendered clothes don't fit a lot of people right anyway.
...and don't forget fabric thickness! for some reason, manufacturers seem to think women want their basic cotton t-shirts to be transparent despite the male equivalents being thick enough to use as blackout curtains :/ male t-shirts vs female t-shirts is to do with body shape,
There's a strong desire in the queer women community (not all, but some) for clothing that's not "typically feminine." Some businesses have been slowly catching on to this, it's a slowly growing industry. Definitely a user base for such a thing.
Less gendered clothing styles are definitely more popular! But isn't it true that not typically feminine clothes still have to fit more feminine bodies?
These are "masculine" outfits that could be worn by anyone, but if I were to take the exact articles from the backs of these men and tried to wear them, they wouldn't fit. I'm shorter, have narrower shoulders, and different hips. So there's a user base who would like clothes like that, but there would still have to be a women's section (or a way to indicate what clothes would probably fit women-type-bodies) and a men's section, even if the styles were the same.
For some reason all the geeky shirts I want at Target are in the Men's section. So I have maybe 5 T-shirts that are Men's. Tees are already pretty androgynous. What I really want are pants that fit my booty but have pockets in the front like Men's pants. The only jeans I own have LIES where pockets should be.
Yeah? What's that about? I asked my wife that question the other day while doing laundry. I understand that the faux pockets are there to help the pants seemed put together. Why go faux though? Why not just put in real pockets? Know what her response was? "Cause I have a purse." LADY! That makes zero sense. For one, half the time I'm carrying your wallet cause you want to go sans purse. For two, adding pockets takes nothing away. For three, you have two summer dresses with pockets. If a dress can have pockets, pants should definitely have pockets.What I really want are pants that fit my booty but have pockets in the front like Men's pants. The only jeans I own have LIES where pockets should be.
The purse. If we're talking modern fashion, women carried purses before they started wearing jeans.
It's ridiculous! Even pajama pants have pockets! I demand more pockets!
I don't think that would fit into my look book.
New Wave hair is sooo 2011. 2015 is all about long boho waves.
IMO current dress styles (that I'm aware of) just don't work for V shapes and are suboptimal for flat chests. This means that dresses just don't look good on some women and most men. Is anyone aware of dress styles that actually look good on your average male physique?
No can do. From what i can tell, the whole point of gendered clothing in the first place is because of different fits/accents. That, and people love their gender binary. No offense to androgynous people, but it's not ever going to be mainstream. It's always going to be a niche. Just like every other niche. It might become more acceptable, but it'll remain a niche.
Let me tell you kids, as a straight male fashionista, gender neutral clothing in my dream. Japanese street fashion been working towards it for a while, and it's catching on a ton there. Skirts? That's some fucking fantastic menswear. Robes, rompers, shoes, etc. It can all be done in tasteful, incredible ways for both genders. I can't wait for it to happen on a larger scale, because currently the binary makes it impossible. Yeah, I could wear a skirt, but it has connotations that make it impossible in a day to day environment.
It's hard to imagine larger retail stores like a Target or Wal-Mart removing gendered categorization, but I am super hopeful that it will be come a trend in large clothes-focused brands like H&M. The first benefit that comes to mind is that it would allow for trans people to feel more comfortable searching for the clothes they actually want to wear without fear of judgement (though, maybe only to an extent) but any retraction of the strict gender binary standards is beneficial to everyone.
I'm not much of a fashionista but it has to fit me and then, given that, I don't want to look absurd or a refugee from some oddball cult. And that last isn't random snark - a great deal of fashion was intended to show class, status and social role. That's been making less and less sense, but some factions of our culture still cling to it. I tried to pick a good example to show rather than a bad example to mock. Having pointed to it, please notice what a narrow range of women would be flattered by those styles. We all define ourselves with fashion to some extent - and why not, it's fun and we need pockets. But gender and social roles are very much in flux, so designs that don't get in the way very much have a place in the mix.
I do support the idea of trying to cater to more gender neutral clothing, but I also don't ever really think it will supersede gendered clothing - just because, as people have mentioned, there are practicality issues in terms of men and women having different body shapes (especially in regards to pants and the like).