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mk  ·  4601 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Ask Hubski: How Does Election Day Feel To You?

That's pretty much how it feels for me, except for in 2000, Kris Kringle was wearing brass knuckles.

More than anything, I just want the election to be fair. I do suspect that some precincts will not report the actual results, to both sides advantage/disadvantage. That shouldn't happen to anyone's vote. We should get a system that provides everyone with an ID, and uses a open-source, secure and standardized ballot and tabulation.

There should be a bipartisan commission to at least create a system that was available to the states that wanted it. These ID's should not be part of a Federal database. It should only be a system for the states to implement.





cliffelam  ·  4601 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yep. Id. Paper ballots. Required watchers from all three parties (hey, give the L's some cred) at all points. 200 yard exclusion zone around polling places. Mandatory video recording of all polling places, 100% live stream.

Rock the actual vote, says I.

-XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm in with that. ID could be done in a reasonable way. We just need to give plenty of lead time and opportunity. And yes, every ballot should have a paper version.

cliffelam  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the ID thing is a false flag. There are LITERALLY no legal voting age people who are compos mentis who don't own picture ID.

I believe in undecided voters who aren't stupid. I don't believe in people without ID.

I'm more understanding about the whole address/precinct thing. :-)

-XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I believe in undecided voters who aren't stupid. I don't believe in people without ID. I'm more understanding about the whole address/precinct thing. :-)

Well, the good thing is that we don't have to agree on that to implement a fair ID system. You can just feel like we are being overly cautious, and we both get what we want.

cliffelam  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yep, I remember listening to National Government Radio and some lib anti-ID group had basically torn up their charter and was now concentrating on making sure that everyone had ID. A better solution, IMHO.

-XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Definitely. If we got to it, it could be done right by 2016.

cliffelam  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Poo. Six months. Both camps keep their volunteers around in a post-GOTV effort.

Heck, looks like Romney is gonna have tens of millions of dollars left - plenty of money for that.

_XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Heck, looks like Romney is gonna have tens of millions of dollars left - plenty of money for that.

Somehow, I don't see it. :)

cliffelam  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That he'll have money left in his campaign kitty? Last I saw he was not spending to 0 on the 6th. I'm sure there is a legal fund in reserve that's pretty huge. cough FL cough.

I suspect it won't get used though.

-XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, I mean that I don't see him using his reserves to help fix the voting system.

cliffelam  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Really? I think very little of Obama but I could see him taking that on. I could certainly see Mitt doing it. Heck, Bill Clinton even.

It's a noble non-partisan thing and it'd be dead easy.

Remember when Jimmy Carter used to haunt polls overseas? If he can manage to add value then anyone can.

_XC

mk  ·  4600 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can see Bush Sr., Clinton, and Carter. I don't really see Obama, Bush Jr., or Romney doing it. McCain would have.

briandmyers  ·  4598 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My prediction - not a peep about voter fraud/id, until the next campaign cycle. It's a distraction issue, not a real problem.