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ecib  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Terrible coutomer service, don't mess with the internet.
You know, I followed that story as it was unfolding and I just have a hard time agreeing that the guy didn't deserve everything he got, -pitchforks and all. The way he treated Dave was just abhorrent. But it just got worse at every turn. At every given point in the chain where he could have deflated the situation he escalated it. From the verbal abuse to the PAX guy, name dropping 'Mayor of Boston', and even his apologies where he blames his victims while simultaneously asking them to help him get his PR on track. It was just kind of amazing to watch.

I think it goes beyond the crowd venting their collective frustration. I think Paul was elevating himself to almost an archetype of a comic book villain, complete with the comedy, ignorance, stubbornness, and malice that goes with that. The reason people reacted that strongly is only because his behavior was that bad.

I dunno. I can't pretend that the Internet is some fantasy land where everybody takes the high road. It is a place where we build things up, as well as tear them down. It's a mirror, and I know if I saw someone treat someone else like that IRL I wouldn't be able to hold my tongue. I would hope I wouldn't be the only one quite honestly. Just because things can go viral on the internet quite easily doesn't mean that the individual reactions to the stimulus aren't valid, it just means there are more of them.

At the same time, this type of piling on could easily be directed at the wrong person with just the twist or absence of one or more key facts. Then what? I think it's completely sane and valid to cast a suspicious eye on mob justice. In this case though, I can't really say that I have a problem with what unfolded.

>Realistically speaking, how much of your day should some tool who sucks at customer service and the one guy who wrote in about it take up? How does it affect your life? What impact will it have?

This particular situation, I'd put on par with watching a funny movie or some comedy clips on youtube. It's right in line with some fairly innocuous and enjoyable media consumption activities in my book.





kleinbl00  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·  
What about the backsplash, though? The controller was originally built for disabled gamers. Their name has been dragged through it. It appears as if Paul has been passing himself off as someone else, thus sullying their name, too.

My basic point is this: if you see someone acting poorly in real life, you can say "hey, buddy, cut it out." But if you see someone acting poorly on the internet, you can do the same... without the benefit of first-hand knowledge of the situation. Worse, if you want to say "die nigger die" but social mores prevent you from doing so in person, the internet gives you all the cover you could possibly want.

ecib  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Yeah I can't pretend that it isn't complicated. A viral mob isn't going to always (or even often) exact a just response. All I know is that in this case I don't have much of a problem with it, and I actually think its going to be a net positive for N-Controller. There is already a viral pushback of support for them in the wake of their cutting ties with Ocean.

The viral megaphone trait of the Internet is a function of the technology itself, and has facilitated tremendous good an ill. Much like technology itself it is neither good nor bad, it just is, and the way we employ it says a lot about us rather than the tool itself I think.

kleinbl00  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I guess I'm just beyond "neither good nor evil" and beginning to recognize that if you don't want something to be used mostly for evil, you have to make a fuss whenever something isn't used for good.

The more I look at it, the more I recognize that anonymity is used far more for doing the things we aren't proud of than the things we are.

ecib  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Ugh. Regarding anonymity, That's the number one argument Internet censors use as justification. Kind of freaks me out a bit... :)
kleinbl00  ·  5013 days ago  ·  link  ·  
That's because we presume that we aren't entitled to it. Erase that misconception and suddenly the problem goes away.
ecib  ·  5011 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Are or aren't? I'm presuming we are entitled to it. I value it highly.