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elizabeth  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Downton Abbey isn't as Good as People Think

It started out as a good show but then I find it became too much. Sort of like in any show for teenage girls like The OC or One Three Hill. When all credibility's gone, you don't really care about the 3rd car crash of the season and the 4rth time somebody's baby dies.

But it's hard to blame them. They could of course have made it more realistic and pay more attention to details and symbolism,but why bother? They would have ended up like Mad Men with everyone complaining the show is boring and too slow. Mad Men is not that bad of an example, they are pretty successful and are always nominated for a bunch of awards. BUt they have about 2.49 mil viewers for season 6 which is nothing compared to Downton Abbey's 9.5 mil in season 4. Numbers matter...

They are exactly what they want to be (a teenage drama for housewives) and it works great.





kleinbl00  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    But it's hard to blame them. They could of course have made it more realistic and pay more attention to details and symbolism,but why bother?

I disagree. I think what set it apart at the beginning was a commitment to well-written characters and a structure that rewarded emotional involvement. I think they could have maintained this despite all the cast changes if they'd been committed to it, but instead they just went for melodrama. "Oh, Mr. Bates is in prison! Now he's not! Wasn't that exciting?" There was a lot more care put into moving the pieces on the chess board which went out the door when they ended up with the game in a position they weren't sure how to extricate themselves from.

Breaking Bad famously took a year off because "the scripts weren't good enough." They doubled down and said "you know what? Good enough isn't good enough." I think if Downton Abbey had been more committed to quality and continuity, they could have continued at the same level of excellence they started.

elizabeth  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Probably. They started off pretty well. No doubt they could have made it into a great show if they would have put in the effort. But they didn't. Obviously they have reasons for what they did. Great quality content requires lots of tradeoffs in deadlines, costs, effort etc. They probably were in a position where they decided "good enough" WAS good enough. It's too bad :(

But honestly, I feel like TV has been much more willing to make these tredeoffs lately. In past couple of years we really got lots of great TV shows: Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sherlock, Game of Thrones...

kleinbl00  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you haven't been checking out The Good Wife, you should. Some seriously well-scripted, well-acted stuff there.

elizabeth  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow they are 5 seasons in? I'll give it a try. I'm scared it might lead to some serious binge-watching ;)

kleinbl00  ·  4164 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah and they're kickin' ass. It really comes into its own Season 2.

We've also been digging the hell out of Longmire (Season 1, anyway). There are a few episodes that are kind of rough, but it's really well done.