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thenewgreen  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I am so ready to get the fuck out of LA

I have a 5 year plan. If some of the stuff I'm working on doesn't pan out in the next 5 years, I'm going to open a small, franchise-able restaurant. A QSR (quick service restaurant) and I like to the idea of it having like 10-12 versions of grilled cheese sandwich. -You can have meats, but the vegetarians would love the place too. Food cost would be low and by adding premium cheeses, high quality side items etc, you could command a premium price.

Its one of many ideas I'm throwing in my notebook. Even if in 5 years, I'm rolling in cash, I'd like to open something like this, just in a more hands off way. I always had the notion that I would open a fine dining restaurant/bar but that seems like so much work for such a small return. If i could open a place that could have 20 locations in the first 4 years, that'd be sweet.

who knows... someday maybe.





sounds_sound  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's cool tng. I recently came across an excellent grilled cheese recipe that is apparently a restaurant 'trade secret'. It has revolutionized my grilled cheese making skills. Now I'm make some killer stuff and I'll never go back. The secret? Instead of spreading butter on the outside of the bread, use real mayonnaise. Sounds weird I know, but it's really tasty.

pseydtonne  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Bleh. That spoiler is ruining my will to eat.

I won't spoil your spoiler -- it'll spoil all by itself as soon as you open the jar. Nevertheless my wife and I use that as a safe word because we hate it so much.

user-inactivated  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I gotta try that next time I make a grilled cheese. You ever made one in a waffle maker? A grilled cheese waffle is a fine thing.

kleinbl00  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Even better when thrown on a campfire.

user-inactivated  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just right in there, or toasted like a marshmallow?

kleinbl00  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

user-inactivated  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a specialized instrument if I've ever seen one. You could probably fry an egg in there, though. Do you butter it like a pan?

kleinbl00  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Alton Brown fan?

Have you ever noticed how many "unitaskers" he uses on a daily basis? Or how his most cherished dishes can't be made without one?

Yes. You are looking at a picture of a camping iron. It has one purpose: put stuff between bread and throw on a fire. However, that one purpose is fucking awesome. Much like popover pans only make popovers, much like tagines only make tagines, much like paiellas only make paiellas, it is a device of limited utility. Yet each example listed has been the subject to its very own edition of good eats.

As a gentle reminder, you were espousing the virtues of a fucking waffle iron not 12 hours ago... and if ever there were a useless does-only-one-thing device for the kitchen, it'd be the salad shooter. But beyond the salad shooter, the waffle iron.

user-inactivated  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh no no no, I wasn't criticizing you for it, I was just interested in what you could do with it. And yeah, I've watched Alton Brown before. Is it possible to find episodes of "good eats" online?

kleinbl00  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Netflix has about 25 of them online. Unfortunately Food Network realizes that their programming is low-rent no-tail stuff that you flip through and if it weren't for cable they'd have no audience so there isn't any.

Amazon Prime, on the other hand, has Julia Child's "The French Chef" as well as Julia and Jacques, where Julia Child and Jacques Pepin get loaded on wine and cook something.

user-inactivated  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh, I love those French Chef programs. I get it on PBS sometimes. Is Amazon Prime a paying service?

kleinbl00  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  
sounds_sound  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Never done that. Do you mean more like a panini press? Isn't a waffle maker more of a manifold surface, used for pouring batter?

user-inactivated  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, I mean a waffle maker. And that is exactly what it is. You need to do some squishing to get it to close with the bread in there, but it melts and toasts better than frying, I've found. It's quicker, too. You need to cut the crusts off though.

user-inactivated  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I imagine you could accomplish similar things with a panini press, but they're more unusual to own.

TheGreatAbider16  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here in Columbus we have and have had several "gourmet grilled cheese" restaurants. A couple have failed and closed. One was literally charging, for example, $11 for a grilled cheese sandwich the size and thickness of my (small) hand with a couple thin slices of ham. It wasn't even filling. No wonder they failed. The markup on that must be nauseating.

I confess I've enjoyed some of the cheaper options, though. There's certainly a market for it!

Fish_  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The thing with a lot of restaurant owners is that they're forced to follow a lot of dumb sub-laws, mostly for food safety, but many more arbitrary ones like minimum square footage in the kitchen; which ends up costing tens of thousands. My grandfather opened up like 3 restaurants during his lifetime, all of them failed within the first 2 years, because he didn't try thinking outside of the box. I hope one day the laws for small restaurant owners will change so your type of small, franchise-able restaurant will become easier to manage.