- The goal was to foster a community where Trump fans could be themselves in all their glory without apology. In practice, that means a whole lot of hanging out and bashing critics as “cucks,” a slang term that originated among white nationalists who liken establishment conservatives to “cuckolds” that tolerate infidelity from their wives. It’s since spread to the broader network of Trump supporters.
The amount of hate coming from every word that author writes is pretty incredible. In one article he managed to link all the very worst of Reddit to the Trump subreddit. I think this subreddit is actually bad for candidate Trump and I wounder if the people running it are really trump supporters or are just in it for themselves. These kinds of communities naturally spiral the way this one did. Eventually it comes down to blaming certain groups for having too much, or being the cause of the problem. New words are invented within the community that describe these "Bad" groups as lesser people and you just have a bunch of angry people doing nothing good. That just seems to be the natural lowest common denominator that online communities spiral into with bad moderation.
It's the old school radical Libertarian posse, cross-bred with the RedPillers. In other words, exactly the Reddit cross-section you would expect to be interested in Candidate Trump.I think this subreddit is actually bad for candidate Trump and I wounder if the people running it are really trump supporters or are just in it for themselves.
Everybody on the redpill is so dead inside and they barely even try to hide it. It's fucking depressing. I think the only thing worse is redpill women, because they don't even know what redpill is they just let there husbands make decisions so he feels good about his manhood. It's so weird.
SA are Lawful Evil. They're organized, they're "ethical" (under their own ethics) and they have goals. They're griefers and their motivations and practices are diametrically opposed to my own, but they're creative, intelligent and dedicated to their cause. They also do a spectacular job of matching the con to the community. The fact that the Archangelles are as tedious and obvious as they are says more about Reddit than it does about SA. And let's be honest: that community is self-sustaining at this point. I don't know how much SA has to do with it anymore; it's self-curating. "the finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist." - Baudelaire
LOL @ jcm267 making MSNBC! LOL @ MSNBC taking an archangelle seriously about anything! Political reporter at MSNBC“I remember him saying we’d have hundreds of thousands of readers there and I was very skeptical about that,” JCM267, r/The_Donald’s founder, told MSNBC. “Not because I thought Trump can’t win, because I think he’s the only GOPer with ‘landslide victory’ potential, but because Reddit is not a conservative place.”
ArchangelleFoodcake, a moderator at SRS, told MSNBC that Trump’s success on Reddit confirmed her longstanding suspicions that Reddit is far less tolerant than the regular pro-Sanders posts would have one believe.
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One of the things that Fark still gets right is they moderate with an iron fist and are not ashamed to ban those who disrupt the community. The problem with that style is that as time approaches infinity (months in Internet time) people get pissed and leave, or the place becomes such an echo chamber that the members of the community are no loner interesting to talk to. Not sure where I want to go with that but I offer the anecdote that I lurk on Fark, but interact with Hubski.
It is the essential problem. That's why I have such hope for this place: can the trap be avoided if there is no moderation, but everyone is given the tools to shape their own experience - seamlessly, individually, with no overarching "moderator" position belonging to anyone? It's still really small. It may never be big. But it functions without moderators. I think Alexis and Steve had a different architecture in mind when they created Reddit. I think they figured people would eventually silo into their own subreddits and interact only with the people they had affinity for. But then, I think they had no understanding of human behavior and less interest in learning and when it became obvious that people will consume at 10x the rate they create and that anger is a far better motivator than joy, they just skated along and counted their money.
Hubski community works because we're small and not very diverse. If we were to grow 10x as big we would have more problems. The more people you have the more likely you are to have people with drastically incompatible views and those people will naturally clash and fight. In a small community they may choose to keep things civil and ignore each other but in a large community it makes more sense to attack the opposition and rally your like minded supporters.
Yeah, I don't think so. We keep saying "this will work only this far" but it keeps working. I think the architecture scales, and I think it's in all of our best interests to keep the architecture scaling. It's not like "this will work until suddenly we need moderators" as we've had these little bimbo eruptions before. The community survives.
I wonder what would happen if a large group with distasteful beliefs all joined Hubski at the same time? Would we see a splintering of sorts where multiple groups coexisted but didn't interact much with each other, or would we see a lot of vicious fighting like in other internet communities? Or something else? Do you think Hubski could survive something like that without moderation?
It's happened several times. We had the CircleJERKERS (the guys who brought you the chimpire), we had Lorelai, we had Team SRS. What happens is they form their own little circlejerky cadres, recognize that nobody else is interacting with them, and leave.